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A Larger Australia
Addressing the media after his successful leadership challenge last year, Malcolm Turnbull stressed his vision for an agile, forward-looking Australia. ‘We can’t be defensive,’ he said, promising a government that would ensure Australia can thrive, ‘as the world becomes more and more competitive and greater opportunities arise’.
But beyond the rhetoric – in practical foreign policy terms – what will it take to achieve a thriving, competitive 21st-century Australia? In this election year, which parties have the smartest foreign policy plans? And, in a more complex, competitive world, does Australia need to be bigger to be better?
Michael Fullilove is an author, historian and executive director of the Lowy Institute. In his recent Boyer lectures, he argued that Australia must be smarter, shrewder and larger to capitalise on the changing world order. In conversation with Sally Warhaft, he discusses why we need a bigger population and a bigger economy. Listen in for a discussion of foreign affairs, population and thinking big.
Sally Warhaft is a Melbourne broadcaster, anthropologist and writer. She is the host of The Fifth Estate, the Wheeler Centre’s live series focusing on journalism, politics, media, and international relations, and The Leap Year, a Wheeler Centre podcast about Australians' lives in the fog of the Covid-19 pandemic. She is a former editor of the Monthly magazine and the author of the bestselling book Well May We Say: The Speeches that Made Australia.
Sally is a regular host and commentator on ABC radio and has a PhD in anthropology. She did her fieldwork in Mumbai, India, living by the seashore with the local fishing community.
Dr Michael Fullilove is the Executive Director of the Lowy Institute.
Over the past decade and a half, Dr Fullilove has played a central role in the establishment and development of the Lowy Institute. He wrote the feasibility study for the Institute in 2002 and served as the Director of its Global Issues Program from 2003 until his appointment as Executive Director in 2012. He has also worked as a lawyer, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington, DC, and an adviser to Prime Minister Paul Keating. He remains a Nonresident Senior Fellow at Brookings and serves on the Council of the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) in London.
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