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Veronica Roth: Divergent Dystopias

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Dark, complex and utterly addictive, Veronica Roth's blockbuster dystopian YA novels have ensnared a generation of young readers. In Melbourne for the first time, this superstar of YA sci-fi talks fantasy worlds, fan fiction and unseen, fate-deciding forces with Amie Kaufman.

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Just 22 years old when she wrote the first book in her wildly successful Divergent trilogy, Roth has gone on to sell more than 35 million copies in the series. The Divergent movies have packed cinemas across the world, too – with fans obsessing over Roth's gutsy heroine, Tris, and her epic journey of courage, sacrifice and coming of age in post-apocalyptic Chicago.

With her latest series, Carve the Mark, Roth again presents a dystopian vision. This time, it's a richly imagined intergalactic setting – replete with tyrants, conspiracies, fascinating technology and a powerful, invisible phenomenon known as 'the current'.


Portrait of Veronica Roth

Veronica Roth

Veronica Roth is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of DivergentInsurgentAllegiantFour: A Divergent Collection, Carve the Mark, and The Fates Divide.

Veronica and her husband live in Chicago. You can visit her online at

Portrait of Amie Kaufman

Amie Kaufman

Amie Kaufman is a New York Times and internationally bestselling author of young adult fiction. Her series include The Illuminae Files, The Starbound Trilogy, Unearthed and Elementals: Ice Wolves. Her work is in development for film and TV, and has taken home multiple Aurealis Awards, an ABIA, a Gold Inky, made multiple best-of lists and been shortlisted for the Prime Minister’s Literary Awards. 

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