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#18 Veronica Haccou on border towns

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When the New South Wales-Victoria border opened up on Monday, Veronica Haccou was among those who felt great relief. Veronica lives in Albury, New South Wales, and works in Wodonga, Victoria. She'd been navigating daily border checkpoints since July, just to go to work. In this episode, she talks with Sally about the stark, surreal contrast between the two border towns during Victoria's second lockdown and about the widespread exhaustion in a community that has lived through devastating bushfires and a pandemic in a single year.


Portrait of Sally Warhaft

Sally Warhaft

Sally Warhaft is a Melbourne broadcaster, anthropologist and writer. She is the host of The Fifth Estate, the Wheeler Centre’s live series focusing on journalism, politics, media, and international relations, and The Leap Year, a Wheeler Centre podcast about Australians' lives in the fog of the Covid-19 pandemic. She is a former editor of the Monthly magazine and the author of the bestselling book Well May We Say: The Speeches that Made Australia.

Sally is a regular host and commentator on ABC radio and has a PhD in anthropology. She did her fieldwork in Mumbai, India, living by the seashore with the local fishing community.

The Leap Year

The Leap Year is a podcast about the stretching, shrinking days of 2020, and the impact COVID-19 has had on Australians’ lives, presented by Sally Warhaft.